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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 10:21

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i'd say it's impossible to have a political system on which everyone agrees, and the fact that the political system is based on "countries".

it's inherent to that system to play out its population against, among others, other countries and their inhabitants.

without global coördination of minerals/energy/riches among all of us, we'll be forced to play along in the games of local leadership.

in short: We're fucked!

gl to you all Neutral

no body can agree with the same, what are you saying Very Happy even in one country or city or ultras group or home we cant agree with our politics... everyone has different theories... its hard, even forced its not working... well we are fucked true :dd


kinda ironic we agree on this eh? Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 10:23

we are fucked, thats true, what i think will happen is there will be several countries which will have the power, like the G20 or g7 will have everything and the other countries will have no shit, and then we will strat to borrow from the system and borrow and borrow, and we are fucked :kur
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 10:42

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we are fucked, thats true, what i think will happen is there will be several countries which will have the power, like the G20 or g7 will have everything and the other countries will have no shit, and then we will strat to borrow from the system and borrow and borrow, and we are fucked :kur

maybe we should join the Russian federation?
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 10:45

rokni wrote:
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we are fucked, thats true, what i think will happen is there will be several countries which will have the power, like the G20 or g7 will have everything and the other countries will have no shit, and then we will strat to borrow from the system and borrow and borrow, and we are fucked :kur

maybe we should join the Russian federation?

German federation will last the longest i think :dd
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 10:46

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rokni wrote:
Ultra_Hool wrote:
we are fucked, thats true, what i think will happen is there will be several countries which will have the power, like the G20 or g7 will have everything and the other countries will have no shit, and then we will strat to borrow from the system and borrow and borrow, and we are fucked :kur

maybe we should join the Russian federation?

German federation will last the longest i think :dd

in that case lets get extinct!
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 10:47

rokni wrote:
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rokni wrote:
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we are fucked, thats true, what i think will happen is there will be several countries which will have the power, like the G20 or g7 will have everything and the other countries will have no shit, and then we will strat to borrow from the system and borrow and borrow, and we are fucked :kur

maybe we should join the Russian federation?

German federation will last the longest i think :dd

in that case lets get extinct!

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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 10:49

We all gonna die is matter of time :dd
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 10:53

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We all gonna die is matter of time :dd

soo, can i sign u up for our future trip to kosovo? it'll be free travel from belgrade to pristina, and when you leave you're free to pick any car in the streets there, and dont forget the albanians have exotic western weapons that make great souvenirs Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 11:00

rokni wrote:
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We all gonna die is matter of time :dd

soo, can i sign u up for our future trip to kosovo? it'll be free travel from belgrade to pristina, and when you leave you're free to pick any car in the streets there, and dont forget the albanians have exotic western weapons that make great souvenirs Twisted Evil

Yes, no problem :dd
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 12:33

old man wrote:
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old man wrote:
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in most cases, a portrait of Che Guevara in the stands attribute of freedom and anti-racism

fuck nazis scum!!!)

but it is not true. he gave a shit for freedom, or is cuba a free country ?
he helped to create this fuckin system.

you're wrong, he fought for freedom
by his own and betrayed
to blame Fidel

please learn history, he do not fight for freedom as we understand, he fought for HIS meaning what freedom is. he became minister in cuba and helped
to build the system of fidel castros version of communism.

i cant beleive, that I have to explain this to you. your country was 70 years long dictated by a fuckin system....

and please stop writing patetic phrases....

about my country, I'd rather know you

Do you have reliable sources about Che Guevara?
is there any friends in Cuba?

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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 12:34

Ultra_Hool wrote:
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old man wrote:
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in most cases, a portrait of Che Guevara in the stands attribute of freedom and anti-racism

fuck nazis scum!!!)

but it is not true. he gave a shit for freedom, or is cuba a free country ?
he helped to create this fuckin system.

you're wrong, he fought for freedom
by his own and betrayed
to blame Fidel

No dictator is good :dd :kur

you stupid :kur
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 12:36

SaintG wrote:
Ultra_Hool wrote:
SaintG wrote:
old man wrote:
SaintG wrote:
in most cases, a portrait of Che Guevara in the stands attribute of freedom and anti-racism

fuck nazis scum!!!)

but it is not true. he gave a shit for freedom, or is cuba a free country ?
he helped to create this fuckin system.

you're wrong, he fought for freedom
by his own and betrayed
to blame Fidel

No dictator is good :dd :kur

you stupid :kur

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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 12:37

SaintG wrote:
Ultra_Hool wrote:
SaintG wrote:
old man wrote:
SaintG wrote:
in most cases, a portrait of Che Guevara in the stands attribute of freedom and anti-racism

fuck nazis scum!!!)

but it is not true. he gave a shit for freedom, or is cuba a free country ?
he helped to create this fuckin system.

you're wrong, he fought for freedom
by his own and betrayed
to blame Fidel

No dictator is good :dd :kur

you stupid :kur

is that what you say? "you stupid"

u dont know anythign about history
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 12:51

Ultra_Hool

I know plenty of you)
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 13:15

SaintG wrote:
old man wrote:
SaintG wrote:
old man wrote:
SaintG wrote:
in most cases, a portrait of Che Guevara in the stands attribute of freedom and anti-racism

fuck nazis scum!!!)

but it is not true. he gave a shit for freedom, or is cuba a free country ?
he helped to create this fuckin system.

you're wrong, he fought for freedom
by his own and betrayed
to blame Fidel

please learn history, he do not fight for freedom as we understand, he fought for HIS meaning what freedom is. he became minister in cuba and helped
to build the system of fidel castros version of communism.

i cant beleive, that I have to explain this to you. your country was 70 years long dictated by a fuckin system....

and please stop writing patetic phrases....

about my country, I'd rather know you

Do you have reliable sources about Che Guevara?
is there any friends in Cuba?


yes - the written history - look at the books...
yes a friend of mine is in cuba, he restaurate old buildings and he told me something.
but you must not have a friend in cuba, you only have to look to the daily news and the
hundreds of refugees which tried to reach the usa...
but this is a stupid discussion.
make your own opinion by listening, reading, learning and stop writing phrases from other guys.

think by yourself and dont "let thinking" by copying the opinion from a leader....
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 15:17

old man wrote:
SaintG wrote:
old man wrote:
SaintG wrote:
old man wrote:
SaintG wrote:
in most cases, a portrait of Che Guevara in the stands attribute of freedom and anti-racism

fuck nazis scum!!!)

but it is not true. he gave a shit for freedom, or is cuba a free country ?
he helped to create this fuckin system.

you're wrong, he fought for freedom
by his own and betrayed
to blame Fidel

please learn history, he do not fight for freedom as we understand, he fought for HIS meaning what freedom is. he became minister in cuba and helped
to build the system of fidel castros version of communism.

i cant beleive, that I have to explain this to you. your country was 70 years long dictated by a fuckin system....

and please stop writing patetic phrases....

about my country, I'd rather know you

Do you have reliable sources about Che Guevara?
is there any friends in Cuba?


yes - the written history - look at the books...
yes a friend of mine is in cuba, he restaurate old buildings and he told me something.
but you must not have a friend in cuba, you only have to look to the daily news and the
hundreds of refugees which tried to reach the usa...
but this is a stupid discussion.
make your own opinion by listening, reading, learning and stop writing phrases from other guys.

think by yourself and dont "let thinking" by copying the opinion from a leader....

I did not copy, write all of my head
I agree that this is a stupid discussion
bye
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyMon 06 Dec 2010, 15:25

He maens that if u say something, then say why you think it!!! dont just say random stuff down
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyTue 07 Dec 2010, 07:15

no let it be. he has his opinion and wont compare it to another opinion - oh my good I have to think - and thats it.
every third sentence a patetic phrase - so what. if this is having an opinion - okay..


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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyTue 07 Dec 2010, 13:54

Thats great. You say that media manipulates everything about Kosovo but then you believe all the shit that those same journalists told you about Cuba.

Ok, lets talk about that. Ive stayed in the island a couple of years ago, and also in Jamaica, El Salvador, and some other countries of the area. Well, by far, Cuba was the best of them. And that was surprising for me, because before arriving there I only have the media vision of the situation. Also, they live better than a part of the population of United States, fallen in the misery (the suburbs of Miami, were emigrated Cubans live, are a little bit frightening)

Ok, they dont have Play Stations at home, and they cant drive expensive cars. But there, in Cuba, nobody is hungry (that was I saw with my own eyes). Compare that fact with other contries of the region, like Nicaragua, for example. And for Cubans, most of the problems arent a fault of their economic system, but of the American embargo. That could be true, remember: Spain suffered a embargo for a half dozen of years after WWII and our grandfathers died of famine.

So, Iam not saying that Cuba is great and the rest of the world is shit. Iam just remembering that not believing all the shit that media says. Nothing in this world is black or white. Remember that, mates. Dont be alienated!

Cheers! :cheers2:
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyTue 07 Dec 2010, 14:12

i always wanted to visit Cuba, i don't know why, i think from the movies i saw before Very Happy

Btw Nice info :clapp:
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyTue 07 Dec 2010, 16:34

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Thats great. You say that media manipulates everything about Kosovo but then you believe all the shit that those same journalists told you about Cuba.

Ok, lets talk about that. Ive stayed in the island a couple of years ago, and also in Jamaica, El Salvador, and some other countries of the area. Well, by far, Cuba was the best of them. And that was surprising for me, because before arriving there I only have the media vision of the situation. Also, they live better than a part of the population of United States, fallen in the misery (the suburbs of Miami, were emigrated Cubans live, are a little bit frightening)

Ok, they dont have Play Stations at home, and they cant drive expensive cars. But there, in Cuba, nobody is hungry (that was I saw with my own eyes). Compare that fact with other contries of the region, like Nicaragua, for example. And for Cubans, most of the problems arent a fault of their economic system, but of the American embargo. That could be true, remember: Spain suffered a embargo for a half dozen of years after WWII and our grandfathers died of famine.

So, Iam not saying that Cuba is great and the rest of the world is shit. Iam just remembering that not believing all the shit that media says. Nothing in this world is black or white. Remember that, mates. Dont be alienated!

Cheers! :cheers2:

first of all I do not say any words about kosovo.
second: okay, no one is hungry and the sun is shining all the day. but what is with freedom, the right speaking what you think, critizise the others, going where ever you want - you can do this in cuba ? Is that what you wrote all you want from your life ? eating, drinking and beeing a part of a system which think for you ? then you have to go to cuba, being a citizen of it, good luck ?

I also do not say, that the american way or the way of the EC is good but better than every totalitarian dictatorship.


and the next: miami is not the whole usa and you cannot compare the united states with cuba in gerneral. cuba has 11 mill. people, the usa 300 mill. so do not tell me such a shit like this. comparing cuba with one city of the usa.....
and most of the people of the usa have the choice to build their own lifes, can the cubans this too ? NO, big NO ! there is a dictator who said, what happend and what not.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyWed 08 Dec 2010, 00:27

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Thats great. You say that media manipulates everything about Kosovo but then you believe all the shit that those same journalists told you about Cuba.

Ok, lets talk about that. Ive stayed in the island a couple of years ago, and also in Jamaica, El Salvador, and some other countries of the area. Well, by far, Cuba was the best of them. And that was surprising for me, because before arriving there I only have the media vision of the situation. Also, they live better than a part of the population of United States, fallen in the misery (the suburbs of Miami, were emigrated Cubans live, are a little bit frightening)

Ok, they dont have Play Stations at home, and they cant drive expensive cars. But there, in Cuba, nobody is hungry (that was I saw with my own eyes). Compare that fact with other contries of the region, like Nicaragua, for example. And for Cubans, most of the problems arent a fault of their economic system, but of the American embargo. That could be true, remember: Spain suffered a embargo for a half dozen of years after WWII and our grandfathers died of famine.

So, Iam not saying that Cuba is great and the rest of the world is shit. Iam just remembering that not believing all the shit that media says. Nothing in this world is black or white. Remember that, mates. Dont be alienated!

Cheers! :cheers2:

first of all I do not say any words about kosovo.
second: okay, no one is hungry and the sun is shining all the day. but what is with freedom, the right speaking what you think, critizise the others, going where ever you want - you can do this in cuba ? Is that what you wrote all you want from your life ? eating, drinking and beeing a part of a system which think for you ? then you have to go to cuba, being a citizen of it, good luck ?

I also do not say, that the american way or the way of the EC is good but better than every totalitarian dictatorship.


and the next: miami is not the whole usa and you cannot compare the united states with cuba in gerneral. cuba has 11 mill. people, the usa 300 mill. so do not tell me such a shit like this. comparing cuba with one city of the usa.....
and most of the people of the usa have the choice to build their own lifes, can the cubans this too ? NO, big NO ! there is a dictator who said, what happend and what not.

Take it easy, mate. My message wasnt directed to you, dont take it personal. I just have telling the forum my experience (obviously, thats not the whole truth; I only could seen a little part of the whole reality). And all that I said was an ECONOMICAL analysis. I didnt mentioned liberties, freedom...

But acusing Cuba for having no liberties its totally hypocritical. That could be true, ok. But what about the neighbours? They are even worse in those things. Why nobody cares about? Think about it.

Ive mentioned Miami because its the city were most of emigrated Cubans live. A comparation between poor Cubans that live in America and poor Cubans that live in Cuba. Of course, economically. And I have mentioned not Miami, but the suburbs of Miami, which are a big shit. Just that.

The only thing I had said its that not believing all the media shit. Everything its manipulated. Kosovo its a good example that the most part of the forum can know. That was just an example.

Glad to argue with you. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Politics - Page 3 EmptyFri 10 Dec 2010, 01:30

My ideology is to keep the roots each country has. If any economic, political problems in a country (because thats mostly why people flee): those who have friendship with them must help. So in other words if you go europe you see whites, if you go to africa you see blacks if you go to latin america you see hispanico....

You see it in football teams too. Come on.. the french team. I bet 7 on 11 were black in the world cup. England, Belgium a bit the same. Look how they all ended up...

Same thing in society. MULTICULTURISM doens't work. No don't start the bullshit of racism. Cuz fuk it, no multiculturism no racism. If there were no jews, hitler couldn't have blamed his own people. (not saying, what he did was right!!) You only got trouble with that, if I go to turkey I normally don't have any trouble. If i ran into turks in MY OWN country i have mostly trouble... hmm..

The worst of all kind is fukin socialism and antifa, and all that. In politicics the socialist party only wants more immigrants because they know that those people vote on them. So the more immigrants the more votes, the more immigrants and so on..

Every country has its own beautiful culture in its own way; if its christian, muslim,.. doesn't matter. But if we all mix.
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PostSubject: Politics in Football ?    Politics - Page 3 EmptyTue 21 Dec 2010, 09:41

fuck capitalism fuck the system!! take your life in your hands !!!!
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fuck capitalism fuck the system!! take your life in your hands !!!!

& fuck fascism) very good!
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