Ultra_Hool wrote:

SaintG wrote:

yea politics scum...

i think ukraine is the most country which suffered by genocide

many of these countries

Ultra_Hool wrote:

Both Croat Ustase and the Serb Cetniks committed acts of ethnic cleansing

pfff...


Ustase r nazi organisation...

Ustase were established about 1939

They are pure Nazi







hitler and ustase leader Ante Pavelic



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ustase


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Cetniks





Chetniks are much older



Cetniks 1908


The Chetnik movement or the Chetniks (Serbian: Četnici / Четници) were a Serbian nationalist and royalist paramilitary organization operating in the Balkans before and during World Wars, mostly known for their participation in the Yugoslav Front of World War II. wiki




1904

beginning of World War II Chetniks resisted the Nazi army






Leader of Cetniks general Dragoljub Draza Mihajlovic









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summary

Ustase r nazi Cetnik not

1945 - Jasenovac, 900 000 serbs killed
1945 - Oluja, 20 000 burried serb houses,how knows how many expelled from their homes

Death to Croatia and Vatikan !!!!

maybe they are different, but They did the same...

The first guerrilla movement in Europe!
First they gave started to give resistance to Nazi-occupied Europe!
read 500 forgoten book !!!
Слобода или Смрт !
За краља и отаџбину !

Ultra_Hool wrote:

maybe they are different, but They did the same...

you may be confused the Chetnik with Ljoticevci??












they r nazi

who cares on what side the started to fight on, the fact is the joined the Nazi at the end

bbbjugend wrote:

who cares on what side the started to fight on, the fact is the joined the Nazi at the end

what???

Ravnogorski Pokret movement never joined the Nazi


Ljoticevci r nazi!


is not the same

they call themself chetniks!

bbbjugend wrote:

they call themself chetniks!

ma daj bre odjebi vise pokatoliceni, svi znamo ko smo MI a ko ste vi BILI i ko je bio na cijoj strani !

bbbjugend wrote:

they call themself chetniks!

come on....


you want to say that you know better than me?!




Ljoticevci call themself Z B O R

ZBOR



RAVNOGORSKI POKRET


Do you see the difference??????????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Neretva

Look who is fighting who?

now dont tell me wikipedia lies!


Explain that

a ti terasa napusi mi se katolicke kurcine

bbbjugend wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Neretva

Look who is fighting who?

now dont tell me wikipedia lies!


Explain that

Chetniks (nominally as Italian Anti-Communist Volunteer Militia)


da li mislis da je ovo gore definicija Cetnika?



Moracu ovo da kazem na srpskom...

Ravnogorski potice sa Ravne Gore, Cetnici su u sutini Ravnogorci.

Ali Cetnici su nastali mnogo pre, oko 1900 u Makedoniji od Makedonskih Srba.
Tokom istorije mnogi su sebe nazivali Cetnicima.
Da se razumemo ja ne tvrdim da je formacija iz bitke na Neretvi nesto drugo.

ALI moras da znas da je ta formacija sastavljena od srpskih dobrovoljaca iz ITALIJE


Ne omalovazavam niciju borbu, ali razlika je ogromna izmedju njih i pravih Ravnogoraca Draze Mihajlovica.


Da li ti je sad jasno?

ALL USERS

You can write in English?

SaintG wrote:

ALL USERS

You can write in English?

sorry for this

I had to explain it in Serbian.


If you are interested in something, say...

what about we change subject

lets change to a discussion i just had with some friends...

Racism...

what do you think about it, and the white race ...

as we all know in Bulgaria there are many racist, maybe because of history, books, but mostly historic of what happened with us with the Turks, and so on. However there are different things to say about this. Bulgaria has been probably the center of the world, meaning every nation has passed trough there, Turks, Byzantines and everything. However today we are "white" nation, but probably in all of us genes, even the Serbs, Croats and everything we don't have 100% white inside, we have Turkish background and so on...In Bulgaria most people just have this feeling against Turks and gypsys, as many other countries, but for us is our history, and the massacres. However they couldn't change our faith. One point to see is that Greeks and Serbs have caused more damage on Bulgarians for decades (1962), than the Turks for 500 years. The Turks couldnt change our faith, but what Serbs and Greeks did is declare that we are barbarians for them, 1 nothing, and thats why also in Macedonia for every Bulgarian back then they changed passports, giving them macedonian passports. In me i am racist, i hate gypsys mostly, eventhought you can find good in any person. What really bothers me is to see blacks, gypsys and all of these ethnics to be in my city, where as children we could play safely on the street, and today sometimes there are selling drugs now, and children don't play anymore. they sit infront of the PC, smoke ciggarets, and even take drugs themselves. what before was safely environment it has changed now..(even in my team, the foundation of LP is communists, turks and so on, then there were with the money, even if today our groups are right wing, but our love for Bulgaria is stronger than our hate) Today we are still in war with the Turks in some way, but the biggest war on this planet is Russians and the Turks, and there are many reasons for this. England can be proud of their "war" for 100 years, but Russians and Turks are for war for 400 more years, and still today the conflict. To get back on the topic of racism, i think nationalism is what we have to talk about, because its ones love for the country, and if you believe that immigrants are a problem then you fight against it!

LOKO wrote:

as we all know in Bulgaria there are many racist, maybe because of history, books, but mostly historic of what happened with us with the Turks, and so on. However there are different things to say about this. Bulgaria has been probably the center of the world, meaning every nation has passed trough there, Turks, Byzantines and everything. However today we are "white" nation, but probably in all of us genes, even the Serbs, Croats and everything we don't have 100% white inside, we have Turkish background and so on...In Bulgaria most people just have this feeling against Turks and gypsys, as many other countries, but for us is our history, and the massacres. However they couldn't change our faith. One point to see is that Greeks and Serbs have caused more damage on Bulgarians for decades (1962), than the Turks for 500 years. The Turks couldnt change our faith, but what Serbs and Greeks did is declare that we are barbarians for them, 1 nothing, and thats why also in Macedonia for every Bulgarian back then they changed passports, giving them macedonian passports. In me i am racist, i hate gypsys mostly, eventhought you can find good in any person. What really bothers me is to see blacks, gypsys and all of these ethnics to be in my city, where as children we could play safely on the street, and today sometimes there are selling drugs now, and children don't play anymore. they sit infront of the PC, smoke ciggarets, and even take drugs themselves. what before was safely environment it has changed now..(even in my team, the foundation of LP is communists, turks and so on, then there were with the money, even if today our groups are right wing, but our love for Bulgaria is stronger than our hate) Today we are still in war with the Turks in some way, but the biggest war on this planet is Russians and the Turks, and there are many reasons for this. England can be proud of their "war" for 100 years, but Russians and Turks are for war for 400 more years, and still today the conflict. To get back on the topic of racism, i think nationalism is what we have to talk about, because its ones love for the country, and if you believe that immigrants are a problem then you fight against it!

Agree, this is how it is in Bulgaria more or less, even if all people don't know...
Ultras how is racism in ur country and how u feel do feel about it?

Duce! Duce! Duce! Duce! Duce! Duce! Duce!

Racism,nazism,nationalism is a disease
blame everything on others is not good
First you need to understand yourself

Well about a ultras,they must be out of politics

Both sides are talkinh shits because Ustase and Cetnici both are criminals....Ustase were nazi hookers and Cetnici was Tito-Yugoslavia hookers

Armin van Buuren wrote:

Both sides are talkinh shits because Ustase and Cetnici both are criminals....Ustase were nazi hookers and Cetnici was Tito-Yugoslavia hookers

wtf????????????